Abstract: This paper attempts to show that a democratic order is not built on the procedural ethics as assumed by liberals, but it is required a substantive ethical foundation. The reason is the democratic system is not contained of atomistic individuals without social relations. A democratic process always moves in a society characterized by social relations and the various formation pro- cesses of complex communities. Democracy is built on formal yet fragile collective identity. In the context of Indonesia, Pancasila is an expression of the collective identity. As a collective identity, Pancasila has no ends and always in the process of being and find themselves in a new way. At the end of the paper, two methods; deliberative and agonistic democracy method are pre- sented. These methods are offered by contemporary political philosophy in resolving conflicts of value in the middle of pluralism.